FEDIDEVS

Modern testing goals:
- Focus on building fast feedback loops rather than certain types of tests
- Make test development as fast and painless as possible
- Choose test tooling that naturally complements dev workflows

#djangoCon 🐂

"API testing is a lot faster than UI testing because calling an API endpoint usually takes a few microseconds, whereas trying to navigate through a web app can take multiple seconds, so we ahve orders of magnitude different speed and execution"

#DjangoCon 🐂

"I am so impressed with all of the @djangogirls stuff that I've seen and I'm extremely jealous. I wish that Postgres had something like that." --Elizabeth

#djangoCon 🐂

"I love very hard problems... ones that seem impossible to be able to fix." --Julia

#DjangoCon 🐂

As a new empty-nester: "You should have some sort of plan for 'what am I going to do with that time'" --Frank

#DjangoCon 🐂

"Contract testing: the way it works, it's like take an API test and make it a unit test. [mocks head explosion]"

#DjangoCon 🐂

"You know me. I have done scary things in other languages with testing. pytest is by far my favorite test framework."

#DjangoCon 🐂

"You know, in your early 20s, you can stay up all night and go to work and I don't know how much of this is having kids and how much is just getting old."

--Frank

#DjangoCon 🐂

On the big benefits of starting in a consultancy

Julia: "You can try lots of different projects, right? It's always new problems, new people."
Frank: "Yeah, you never get bored and then you start to see that the kinds of problems that happen with this industry are really similar to the same kinds of problems that happen in this industry with this one little extra legal or regulatory or societal twist to it."

#DjangoCon 🐂

"It was not a rough transition [starting a business] except for I picked 2007 to start a business." --Frank

#DjangoCon 🐂

"I still code most days even though I'm managing." --Frank

#DjangoCon 🐂

"You do lose a little bit of political sway [as an individual contributor]." @andrew #DjangoCon

🐂

"I want to acknowledge the @django leadership in the room as well... You know? I have a 5-year-old. She was kind enough to let me get on this stage."

Priorities shift with time. How does your impact in direct lines of code change as life changes?

@kjaymiller

#DjangoCon 🐂

"Your input is not just being able to directly say 'ok this project might be a problem.' It's when you get other people to the point where they can see the project may be a problem." --Charles

#DjangoCon 🐂

"Sometimes because I've been around a little bit now, I can sort of see a pothole coming, you know, either a technical pothole or maybe a political one or maybe a legal one or a financial one, and say ok, there's a pothole coming up" --Charles

#DjangoCon 🐂

"There's also sort of another option which is working for a product company that builds developer products." --Elizabeth

#DjangoCon 🐂

"I don't know if it's as much a skill [switching from IC to manager] as it is like being genuinely interested in the people that work for you" --Elizabeth

#DjangoCon 🐂